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The filmed shooting in Fallujah

Owen West & Phillip Carter have some good thoughts on the filmed shooting of an insurgent in Fallujah. It may have been a tragedy, but it wasn’t an atrocity. Also note Diana West’s thoughts on the matter.  

Discussions - 7 Comments

How times change. I remember as a teen ager reading a Readers’ Digest short item circa 1960 about a WWII GI in the Pacific.

A Japanese soldier came running up to the US lines yelling "Don’t shoot, I went to Ohio State!"

One soldier drilled him and then remarked, "Sorry Bud, I went to Michigan!"

Oh yes, the article was in the section entitled "Humor In Uniform."

This subject has already been over-commented upon in other forums but here’s my take:

War is not a charitable function, particularly during the assault on a fortress, and the Geneva Conventions were never intended to force warriors to take unreasonable hazards. A soldier is not required to risk his own life to save that of an enemy. Further, an enemy IS required to give an understandable indication of surrender.

In a situation such as existed in Fallujah, where false surrenders were occurring, the proper and justifiable approach in questionable situations is to "Shoot them all and let God sort them out." The marine who did this should have his actions reviewed within his own chain of command, and any decision as to his future made there without any political pressure, whether foreign or domestic.

I never expect Feather Merchants to understand combat, but when they threaten to get our soldiers killed because of misplaced concern for the enemy I rage.


To hell with the Geneva Conventions. Why should the most powerful country on the face of the earth care about an unarmed, injured Iraqi in a Mosque in Falluja?

Mr. Schramm said that the shooting of an unarmed insurgent "may have been a tragedy, but it wasn’t an atrocity." Huh?? This seems almost akin to Clinton’s strained hair-splitting of "is"!! The American Heritage Dictionary defines atrocity as "an appalling act or object," and, more relevantly, "an act of vicious cruelty, esp. the killing of unarmed people" (italics added). These kinds of moral contortions - which almost certainly would stir outrage (and understandably so) if the shoe was on the other foot, and we saw an unarmed American getting blown away in a similar fashion - raise serious questions about what kind of cafeteria-plan "values" some (but not all) red-state loyalists are employing. It doesn’t take any firsthand battlefield experience (so, this applies to "feather merchants" as well as "armchair generals") to realize that this Iraqi could have simply been disarmed (not necessary here), restrained, and hauled to the nearest POW camp/prison. Finally, this idea from another poster (GI Joe - a prank post perhaps?) that "Why should the most powerful country on the face of the earth care about an unarmed, injured Iraqi in a Mosque in Falluja?" - well, this is a disappointing perspective, to say the least. This hardly seems like a Christian sentiment to me.

"Shoot them all and let God sort them out"???? Read those words again - "Shoot them all and let God sort them out." These are the words of a nihilist who has run out of ideas. Ok, that’s enough! I’ve enjoyed reading some things on this site and this blog previously, and found more than a few to be enlightening, but this sort of moronic "analysis" is just about enough to make me forsake the Republican Party. It’s certainly the last straw for this blog. I won’t be back, if this particular "marketplace of ideas" is selling garbage like this.

I find it disgusting when a famous univeristy professor is trying to deny that killing of an unarmed person is an atrocity. If some uneducated Johnny claimed that I would understand that Johnny has problems with big words and what they mean.
The joke posted by Frank Borger is really not funny.
When I hear "Kill them all and let God sort them out" I am ashamed of my fellow Christian.

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