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Terri Shiavo, dead

Terri Shiavo has died. There is no more to say. RIP.

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On the contrary, there will be plenty more to say - and should be, if we want to avoid similar tragedies in the future.

On the passing of Terri Schiavo, our beloved sister in suffering, who was starved and murdered by her husband, the court and the state.

Death, be not proud, though some have callèd thee

Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so;

For those whom thou think’st thou dost overthrow

Die not, poor Death; nor yet canst thou kill me.

From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be,

Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow;

And soonest our best men with thee do go—

Rest of their bones and souls’ delivery!

Thou’rt slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men,

And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell;

And poppy or charms can make us sleep as well

And better than thy stroke. Why swell’st thou then?

Our short sleep past, we wake eternally,

And Death shall be no more. Death, thou shalt die.

—John Donne

Scott Collier

God met Terri at the gates of heaven and said, "Terri, I am happy to see you. I have been waiting for this moment for 15 years." God Bless Terri Schaivo and her husband and family in this hard time.


Some of these comments bring to mind, in utter contrast, the Old Left slogan: "Don’t mourn. Organize." And that is the message I would offer to my fellow conservatives in the wake of this tragedy.

As the first poster on this thread said, "On the contrary, there is plenty more to say." The Left has obtained its power by, among other things, never stopping. They never say, "there’s nothing more to say," just as they never take "no" for an answer.

Let’s learn a lesson from them. The issue is far too serious to walk away from, and the Schiavo case, in all candor, is simply too good an educational device to walk away from in tears. Frankly, it must be exploited, long and hard.

Personally, I’m hoping that the Schindlers will explore the possibility of a "wrongful death" civil suit against Michael Schiavo. At the very least the discovery phase of such a suit might open the way to de novo review of the facts in the case, too late to save the Schindlers’ daughter, alas, but perhaps timely in promoting public scrutiny of the rules and judicial behavior that allowed such an interest-conflicted figure as Michael Schiavo (a common-law bigamist, no less) to get such absolute power over his wife’s life and estate, esp when her parents and siblings were standing by pleading to be allowed to take over her care.

Hear, hear, PJC! I hope they take him for every dime. The fact that he denied her parents their God-given right to be at the deathbed should speak volumes to a future jury about the malice of Michael Schiavo. Every dime, and then some. It won’t help Teri, but it will serve justice and create jurisprudence in this area.

I hope there is much more said and done to prevent future tragedies of this nature and to bring perpetrators of this crime to justice. I recently found this link that investigates and states the situation as well as any I’ve read: Judge Greer’s complicity

Pardon me, but I’m NOT DEAD! I’m alive and well in Duluth, Minnesota, thank you very much. Perhaps you were referring to Terri Schiavo (with a ’c’); the woman who’s been in all those news stories.

Fortunately, Mr. Schramm was only in the business of grandstanding from her unfortunate situation, not chiselling her name into the headstone.

Actually, I don’t think she has a headstone.

Her husband--the one who mysteriously remembered, seven years into her infirmity, that she had said she’d want to die in such a situation and then refused to spend any more of her trust-fund money on testing or rehabilitation--insisted on having her cremated, against the wishes of her parents and siblings.

But god forbid that anyone should "grandstand" by pointing out the problems surrounding a court willing to leave an adulterous and otherwise patently interest-conflicted husband in total charge of his helpless wife’s fortune and very life despite the presence of other close relatives more than willing to take over her care.

Her ashes were buried in a plot in Pennsylvania which was provided by her aunt and uncle. Maybe some tax dollars are being put to good use presently to find her exact gravesite, so there will be a good backdrop for any future ’culture of life’ speeches by Bush, DeLay, Frist, Randall Terry, etc.

All that Bush, DeLay, Frist, all the other Senators, and a House majority including 47 Democrats called for and voted for was a fresh evaluation of the facts in her case by a court beyond Judge Greer’s (he’s a Republican, btw).

Ralph Nader and Jesse Jackson, hardly anyone’s idea of conservatives or Republicans, agreed that there were good reasons for such a step, along the lines I sketched, but I notice they’re not on the list in the post above. Gee, I wonder why that could be?

Nader and Jesse Jackson have become more and more desperate to score press attention in the last few years. Nader’s involvement is indicative of this, and I’m hardly surprised that Jackson and the Dems allowed themselves to get sucked into that moronic circus whipped up by the Christian Right.

Oh, please . . . like Nader and JJ have no way of getting press attention other than publicly agreeing with the "Christian Right" about something. Maybe just maybe they looked at the merits and decided that the facts of the case needed another look by somebody other than Judge Greer and Cranford, the euthanasia-enthusiast doc that Michael Schiavo hired.

I heard that Terri Schiavo leaned Democrat before she fell into her vegetative state, so considering that there was such a good chance for her to become a fully functioning person again with further treatment, perhaps it’s best that she’s gone.

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