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Socialism by Construction?

One Democratic talking point about the health care bill is that it is not a national takeover because citizens will still be purchasing insurance from private corporations, rather than simply going to a government paid doctor.  At some point in time, however, an industry grows so heavily regulated that the businesses are no longer truly private enterprises.  Perhaps utilities fit this bill.  Hence we should ask whether, after these new regulations become law, insurance companies are still truly private corporations.

I am reminded of a bit of wisdom, or something like it, from the editors of the Legal Papers of John Adams: "It was common 18th-century practice to divide the proceeds of such suits, a third each to Governor, informer, and Crown. In many situations, fees and forfeitures were used to encourage an element of private enterprise which helped to keep salaries low and place the cost of government on those who invoked its powers."   To call the work by government officials, backed by the powers and instruments of law "private enterprise" because they could exercise individual initiative, is a perversion of language.  The same might be true of health care in the U.S.

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I think the ultimate socialist plan if for big business to abandon employer-provided healthcare, and then to make private plans too expensive (leaving yet another crisis and only the single-payer alternative as a last resort).

Too often we think of big business as friendly to conservativism, but I just don't see it. Lenin was probably right about them (but we have to save them despite themselves, regardless). Given half a chance, they will seek to drop health insurance for their employees.

Redwald, health insurance is a big expense and a nuisance to any business small or large. No one goes into business looking forward to managing the health insurance plan. If you produce widgets and have to hire an H.R. person to manage the benefits package, that may keep the employees you need, but does not really help make the widgets more effectively or profitably. It's an added bit of overhead and a diversion from the true purpose of the business.

The self-governing way to manage your health insurance is to carry it yourself. If having a group would make for lower premiums, allow anyone to form a group by subscription. Our pastor, in order to get health insurance for himself and his wife, had to incorporate. They are a "Ministry" now, which is silly. There is no good reason that businesses should be in this position, to have to carry and manage the health insurance for their employess. Liberating business from the responsibility of health insurance is a good thing. Handing it to government does not have to necessarily follow and is bad thing.

Yes, the bill's real and behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country until one day as Normal Thomas said we will wake to find that we have socialism, and if you don’t do this and I don’t do this, one of these days we are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free ...

Oh, wait. Someone already said that. Well, before they sort of pretended that they didn't. And by that time everyone liked it anyway and pretended it was their idea in the first place.

This isn't socialism, or even a step on the road to socialism. And you know that. The "s" word has simply become a stick with which to beat anything you don't like and a tool to get the Hal Holsts of this world all fired up.

So much for careful consideration of ... well, anything here.

Consider the Socialist Party platform of 1928:
http://blog.riseofreason.com/socialist-platform-of-1928/111/

It's not communism, but social democracy is certainly a form of socialism.

Kate, I'm not arguing that private industry has a God-given obligation to provide health care. What I am criticizing them for is their apparent willingness to let Big Brother take over for them, all so they can make a buck. And today I read that Big Insurance has reversed course (now that the monstrosity has passed), and will do all in its power to make Obamacare succeed.

Here's the problem we have -- our allies are inconsistent, and our party (i.e., the GOP) doesn't understand the "mission" once it gets power. Time after time, it has squandered its power, morphing into Democrat lite whenever it got the chance. On the other hand, the true Socialist Left understands the mission, and they go for the throat every time. I hear they are already queuing up for cap and trade, if you can believe it.

Kids, we can't win (or even hold our own) like this. How many true victories have we had since Reagan?

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