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Marines, panhandlers, and others

The Berkeley City Council has asked the Marine recruiting station to get out of town. "In a separate item, the council voted 8-1 to give Code Pink a designated parking space in front of the recruiting station once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week from noon to 4 p.m." There is more. In the meantime, the ACLU
"claims a Florida Panhandle school kept students from having rainbow stickers on their notebooks, suppressing their right to free speech.

A lawsuit against Ponce de Leon High School was filed Thursday in federal court." The Ottawa panhandlers union has hired a lawyer in support of a panhadlers rights group to prepare "a human rights complaint against the City of Ottawa after it put up a fence to stop them from sleeping in a downtown pedestrian underpass." A Yale fraternity gets into trouble, but it may be OK since the freshman brother didn�t read the sign. I bet Howard Dean and Prescott Bush would have.

Discussions - 8 Comments

Maybe Bill O'Reilly was right when he offered up San Francisco for the next terrorist attack? And to think that the Marines Across America ad that Mr. Hayward posted recently ended with The Few (although not too few, if they can stretch across the U.S.) and The Proud watching over the San Fran/Berkeley/Bay Area. Doesn't San Diego have more Republicans? Maybe THAT is where the Marine Chain should have ended?

So I guess when there's no real good economic news updates to cherry-pick, we'll be getting updates on Those Dirty Hippies and No-Good-Bum-Panhandlers?

You must be an Arab. No one could hate America as much as you do and not be an Arab. Why don't you get out and leave this place to the good God-fearing Americans?

Good riddance. We don't need Berkeley. Although, it's too bad that they so blatantly show their lack of support for the men and women who fight for a better world.

On a different note, Senator Obama proclaims a change in the future. Please. Forgive me if I fail to see the need for a change in the world's freest nation. Perhaps the good senator would like to change those nations which aren't as privileged. Oh wait, that's right. He wants to bring our troops home; guess I'm too optimistic in him.

By the way, your link to the article about Berkeley is broken.

You think that's bad, take a look at this.

Craig, I used to hear that San Francisco should be offered up as an excellent site to test our neutron bomb. I don't even hear about that bomb anymore, much less loathing for the Bay area. The Marines aren't leaving. Still, I wonder what their recruitment goals are for the area and if those goals are met. They wouldn't be stubborn about leaving the area if it was an unsuccessful field for recruiting, would they?

R.O.B., most of the world looks no further than their own locale and the present era. That is plenty to handle for most folks. Short-sightedness may account for the Berkeley City Council ruling, too. Still, you can't know whether to laugh or weep over such things, can you?

Congratulations, Poolee John Schramm and thank you.

Typical Marine fashion:

"Gunnery Sgt. Pauline Franklin said Friday that while the Corps respects city officials' right to free speech, the Marines would not be leaving."

Typical Californian fashion:

"The Berkeley City Council voted Tuesday to tell the Marines that if its recruiters choose to stay in their rented downtown space 'they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests.'"

The Marines in Berkeley know their job, and will get it done despite the lack of support. Thank God we have the Marines. If all places were ruled by people like these Berkelians, all rule would be based off emotion and would be completely self-centered.

Semper fi, devil dogs.

Berkeley City Council is divided on the issue.

"Council members Betty Olds and Laurie Capitelli on Monday proposed that Berkeley rescind its letter...."

"People are so mad about this. They have relatives in the service, and now they think they're not welcome in Berkeley," she (Olds) said. "My twin brother was a Marine in World War II. He'd be turning in his grave if he saw this."

This is not just a matter of rule by emotion. We are all emotional people. There is a certain blindness to fact in some people. Even small Ohio towns like mine (and maybe yours) have their share of such folk. We have a council member who insists that Cuban boat people come here because we have better trees. She's a Republican, too.

I am certainly with you in thanking God for the Marines. They defend the people of Berkeley, even the nuts who deride them, because that is what Marines are supposed to do. If some people on Berkeley's city council, or even here, on this blog, are blind to that impressive fact about the Marines and about America, too bad.


I found most of the comments here disturbing as I am continually amazed at American arrogence, ignorance and propoganda.(A deadly combination)
Hal obviously hasn't done much travelling outside the U.S. or he'd realize most of the nations of the world(even non-Arab) despise the U.S. for it's lies, manipulations and outright snobbery. He should be GOD fearing, as the BIG SMACK is rapidly approaching and his country shall be turned into islands.
I also guess that Betty Olds brother wasn't black or he wouldn't be rolling in his grave, he'd have been forced to sit at the back of the recruitment bus, though they were just as willing to die for their country, even though it still surpresses them.
Love that respect for equality and freedom you pretend to have while murdering women and children of foreign countries based on LIES, and then brag about it while your own Government violates human rights within and without it's own borders.
Educate yourselves to the TRUTH, as GOD said; "Thou shall not commit murder" but never mentioned anything about "Unless you're a marine".
Jesus said; "Love thy Enemy", not "LIE about them attacking you and then go steal their oil and murder their civilians".
While I realize most of you are not wise enough to accept this rebuking as I share it, I'll share it anyway. You won't be able to say you weren't warned, only that you didn't listen.
Too bad you worship your flag instead of the TRUTH.
your humble servant,
ancient clown

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