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Durbin’s grotesque words

Mark Steyn doesn’t (at first) question Senator Durbin’s patriotism, he starts off with his sanity!

One measure of a civilized society is that words mean something: "Soviet" and "Nazi" and "Pol Pot" cannot equate to Guantanamo unless you’ve become utterly unmoored from reality. Spot the odd one out: 1) mass starvation; 2) gas chambers; 3) mountains of skulls; 4) lousy infidel pop music turned up to full volume. One of these is not the same as the others, and Durbin doesn’t have the excuse that he’s some airhead celeb or an Ivy League professor. He’s the second-ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Don’t they have an insanity clause?

Of course, you have to read the whole thing. Let Steyn’s words remind us that words are not idle things, and Durbin’s grotesque words have meaning. Durbin and others like him should learn this, and failing that, should at least quiet their wild and whirling words and know that words without thoughts never to heaven go. Steyn concludes:

This isn’t a Republican vs Democrat thing; it’s about senior Democrats who are so over-invested in their hatred of a passing administration that they’ve signed on to the nuttiest slurs of the lunatic fringe. It would be heartening to think that Durbin will himself now be subjected to some serious torture. Not real torture, of course; I don’t mean using Pol Pot techniques and playing the Celine Dion Christmas album really loud to him. But he should at least be made a little uncomfortable over what he’s done -- in a time of war, make an inflammatory libel against his country’s military that has no value whatsoever except to America’s enemies. Shame on him, and shame on those fellow senators and Democrats who by their refusal to condemn him endorse his slander.

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It should be noted that during that summer of the D-Day invasion, in 1944, that a Republican presidential candidate, Thomas somebody, was seriously considering making the likelihood that FDR had knew of the Japs intentions on Pearl Harbor, but did nothing, a election issue. It should also be duly noted that George Marshall, talked said candidate out of raising said issue for fear of tipping the Japs off that we had broken their communication "codes," and thus knew every single move they were making.

Something tells me that any liberal today would laugh themselves silly at the notion of this sort of political restraint, for the sake of the greater good. Instead, they would rush headlong to the closest camera and make a complete and utter ass out of themselves.

Just as Thomas somebody would have had not Marshall knocked some sense into him. :)

Yeah, words do have meaning, and to "compare" is not the same as to "equate." Durbin COMPARED, but I do not see how, in any way he EQUATED, as Steyn says, U.S. actions with history’s worst. The comparison isn’t favorable, but it wasn’t "these things are the same." A good listener or reader should have picked up on these things.

Steyn conveniently picks, by far, the least embarrassing form of mistreatment/psych. torture that has been brought up (loud music). Take a look again at those pics of naked prisoners stacked up, with our soldiers standing next to them, and then work hard at reminding yourself how morally superior the U.S. is presently. Go on about how we deserve a pat on the back for not just killing them all or electrocuting their genitals or boiling them in oil or whatever. I really think you’re all painting yourself into a dark corner with this "well, at least we’re not as bad as..." such and such. Pathetic. Just watch as America’s reputation erodes.

Mr. Scanlon

Let us see what our friends at" target="_new">Princeton say:

# S: (v) compare (examine and note the similarities or differences of) "John compared his haircut to his friend’s"; "We compared notes after we had both seen the movie"
# S: (v) compare (be comparable) "This car does not compare with our line of Mercedes"
# S: (v) compare, liken, equate  (consider or describe as similar, equal, or analogous) "We can compare the Han dynasty to the Romans"; "You cannot equate success in financial matters with greed"
# S: (v) compare (to form the comparative or superlative form on an adjective or adverb)
emphasis mine

Clintonesque hair-splitting of the first caliber! Let me lay it in on a silver platter for you. Durbin wasn’t saying that what our troops were/are doing there are the same thing as genocide, but that the "techniques" used there have some resemblance of those used by horribly brutal regimes, stupid rap music reference notwithstanding. So, fine, to play your inane game, he was comparing as in the FIRST definition you cited, not the third.

And myself, I don’t have any friends at Princeton, and I’d caution you against it - there are a lot of LIBERALS there, right??

I have compared Puddy Tat and Bugs Bunny today. They look different but neither was cute. Does it make the act of comparing invalid?

Tweety has graduated from Princeton, too.

Mocking the Downing Street Memo

If American progressives think they have enough media clout to make a real issue of George W. Bush’s possible impeachment over the Iraq War, they should read the account of Rep. John Conyers’s rump hearing on the Downing Street Memo that appeared in the Washington Post.

Mocking the Downing Street Memo

The story by political correspondent Dana Milbank drips with a sarcasm that would never be allowed for a report on, say, a conservative gathering or on a topic involving any part of the American political spectrum other than the Left.

You are badly wrong. The Washington Post story was a rare exception. I’m sure the author has already taken a fair, or rather unfair, amount of heat.

Even the MSM couldn’t do anything but mock Conyers’ nonsense. Imagine, grown men assembling to engage in make-believe, wasting taxpayer money to boot. They’ve gone off the rails...image is no substitute for substance, a lesson that Democrats have repeatedly failed to learn.

But why, Dain, if the MSM is so liberally-biased would it choose to mock Conyers, rather than just not reporting the "nonsense," or simply reporting it straight, as in "here’s what happened," without the embedded (haha) commentary???

I’ve said it before, although not here.

Senator Durbin, Congressman Conyers, et al, are simply the result of an American populace which allows itself to ignore the ignoramuses it sends to Congress every election.

Our Congress is the best money can buy!

Sadly, we should do some comparison shopping when we vote.

Durbin: as described in official documents, some clearly defined subset of X looks more like Y than like Z.

Steyn’s paraphrase - and that of the right’s attack machine in general: Durbin said X was like Y.


If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings.

Durbin compares exposing a terrorist to cold room temps to what the aforementioned regimes did to innocent civilians and Brett thinks it’s the right with an attack machine.

Thanks Brett, I needed a laugh.

Actually, Brett’s point was right on the money.

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